"Clinton's Hit List of 50" to be brought up either...
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The Dems continue to propose legislation that penalizes and damages the most productive and hard-working people in the country, taking more and more of their money and giving it to those who continue to produce little or nothing.
If that's not socialism, I don't know what is. Rangel's piece of garbage legislation must go down in flames.
I am so sick to death of paying more and more taxes. If I could find a better country to live in, I would seriously consider emmigrating. |
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America is the best place in the world to live in. I wish, our conservative republicans were more vocal and aggressive to define our morals and values, and I wholeheartedly, beleive, we will win hearts and minds of majority. We have to show we do care and are compassionate, but with that comes great responsiblity. We individuals are our brothers keepers. Government only has to secure the country and its citizens. I was raised in another country, we were responsible of our well being, our family and our neighbors too. If you didn`t work, you actually would starve. Congressmen Campbell you are doing a great job informing the public, thanks for caring. |
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And to think that the Party that brought us "Six years to huge deficits", totally out of control spending, and irrational tax cuts for the wealthy IN A TIME OF WAR - actually thinks that they have a legimate GRIPE at this point in time? Campbell must be out of his friggin gourd.
Listen, you 24%-er wingnuts need to figure out that the party in control lo these last six, disastrous years is the party responsible for our current and MANY woes. It's not hard - just USE the brains God gave you fer crissakes. |
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I would like to point out some things that all of us should be aware of.
First, it is good to use the OECD figures but one of the clearly outstanding points is that of the 39 top industrialized countries, the US is the only one without a National Healthcare system for all of its citizens.
Thus our current tax rates would appear to be even more outrageous, since we are not getting full value. OECD puts the per capita charge for medical care in the US at $6400 vs Norway at $4364, then Switzerland at $4177. Those countries are getting something of value out of their taxes.
Second, after 12 years of Reaganomics, 8 years of Clintonomics, and 6.5 years of Bushian spend and and expand government, and by the way, let's make a side deal to keep the war costs off budget, it's nice to see that someone is at least attempting to address the AMT. That is now severely threatening the middle class, meaning most us.
Next, what Ronald Reagan termed the worst tax of all: inflation. Don't buy the "inflation is under control" line when inflation leaves out food and gasoline for the sake of a less volatile index. Further, in February of 2003 gas was $30 a barrel.
Most of those industrialized countries in the OECD survey also have a nicely developed infrastructure of civil transportation which will take up some of the slack as the peak oil begins to work itself into an everyday bitter reality. We have privatization, disrepair, and crony capital.
Everyone hates taxes. What I hate is getting no benefits and a bloated military and corporate socialism for the taxes I pay. |
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Of course the next President will have to raise taxes.
The national debt is over nine TRILLION dollars, largly because W is flushing two BILLION dollars every week down the toilet that is Iraq.
The estimated population of the United States is 303,367,506 so each citizen's share of this debt is $29,872.62.
The National Debt has continued to increase an average of $1.42 billion per day since September 29, 2006.
And you Republicans think the next President can avoid a tax increase?
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The problem can be solved w/o raising taxes. Washington just doesn't have the cojones to do it and sustain it. All they gotta do is have mandatory reductions in spending. |
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And where do we start with that mandatory reduction in spending?
Just the week, the gov said that we will spend (WASTE!) $2.4 trillion dollars in Iraq alone.
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/86xx/doc8690/10-24-CostOfWar_Tes timony.pdf
Which, by the way, is making us less safe than we were before 9/11. Which, by the way, is creating more terrorists than there were before 9/11.
You're doing a heck of a job, Bushie! |
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If you read the Constitution, it is easy to see where spending should be cut.
The Constitution states "provide for the Common Defense" meaning that military spending is mandatory.
The Constitution says "promote the General Welfare" meaning to educate, talk up, advise how to get ahead. It does NOT mean pay for.
Cut all entitlement spending. It is all unconstitutional, anyway. Send the government run charities back to the States.
Won't happen, but it should. |
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The problem is the entitlement attitude instilled by the marxocrats over the last 50 years. Liberals have used the power of education and the media to brainwash 2 generations of students into believing the government should run/fix everything.
Perfect example: that nauseating AARP commercial with the ele-donk symbol and a bunch of kids whining, "I'm not old enough to vote today, but someday I'm going to vote for the politician who promises me the most stuff..."
Anyway, watching these democrats trip over each other with their daily proposals for new entitlements and higher taxes is actually funny and will probably end up in a very effective campaign commercial.
It's starting to look like the democrat power surge is going to be a short-lived phenomena. |
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Hillary will be elected. I have no doubt of that in my mind. Hold on to your wallets folks. If you think taxes are high now and that Bush and Company have spent their ever living butts off, just wait. This is one scary situation we are faced with. Internationally and within our own county. Socialism is on the way and we have not one Republican candiate with any balls to stop it. We Republicans have done this to ourselves and we should all be ashamed. The Democrats will now show how great they are at taxing and spending our money. Does anyone out there remember Jimmy Carter? Can you say inflation, 24% interest rates, recession?
Hmmmm?
Idiots.... |
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You are dead on target--you may be the only person on this board to have read and understand our Constitution. Expenditures for war and war materials expand our industrial base and puts money in the pockets of workers. There is no down side to that--when a bomb blows up there is no money in it that spreads across the landscape to be blown away by the winds of war. All the money remains here at home and it enriches peoples lives. Social programs, though providing a warm fuzzy feeling to the benevolent, do nothing to expand our industrial base or enrich our countries coffers, except through secondary spending on small consumer goods. The rich pay taxes on their own earnings and taxes on their employees--all employee earning are extracts of the money earned by the company of employ. No company-no employee, no money earned, no taxes paid. The company is the earner, employer, wage payer and indirect tax payer. Only a fool would would put more emphasis on the "warm fuzzy" over the principle of economic expansion. |
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I have seen lots of liberals running around with their bumper stickers and their mouths saying "He's not MY President". So, let's have two tax systems. Let's have a liberal tax system where you knuckleheads pay an estimated $3500 per capita to the Government (that is what 1 trillion is) and a conservative tax system where we pay the lower tax rates which is as they are now. After all, "These not MY taxes" could be a rallying cry.
I note that the "Progressives" above all talk about the growth of the national debt. We were in a recession left by your precious Bill Clinton, we got pounded economically by 9/11, and we ARE in a war which was voted by a LARGE majority of Congress. Just because you are bored with the war doesn't mean that it is no longer worth fighting. All of these contribute if you are not going to raise taxes to offset the cost of the war.
But there are no liberals who have said "we need to reduce the butter the Government buys because it is buying guns". Instead, you bunch of worthless economists want to raise taxes. So you Socialist Commies, cut spending for once in your miserable lives. |
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the country...please, why are you letting people like Charlie Rangel, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid intimidate you? We fought a Revolutionary War to defeat just such liberal Parlimentary socialists (King George III). Where would we be if we had just given up and moved on to South America or somewhere?
Are you such wimps that you would leave this beautiful, wonderous country in the hands of socialist do-gooders who would just hand it over to the Communists for the promise of Utopia? Puleeeeeze people, THINK for a change. Freedom is not free. If we have to take these people by the neck and slam them to the gound then that's what we have to do.
Stand up and fight for your Constitution. The more you talk of leaving the country, the more you embolden these scumbag communists who hide behind the label of socialism. Hillary is a blatant, outright Communist. Open your eyes and your ears! Are you willing to let these people take over the lives of our future generations with outmoded ideas that have proven disasterous wherever they have been tried?
America is at a crossroads. We have been living with this same question since Revolutionary days. Should we subordinate our lives to a strong central government, or should we dedicate our lives to a free market system where freedom of choice and hard work is rewarded?
Those who are weak of character and lack moral values will choose a strong government that relenquishes all life choices. They view anyone who chooses to remain free as an enemy of the government. Since they have no moral compass, God help those who do not agree with their choice. They have nothing over the Al Qaida. |
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Your sentiments are great and ideally I would fall in line behind you but there is more to it now. Our country has been infiltrated and our children and college students indoctrinated to bastardize the Constitution under the false guise of benevolence. Their heads are giant mush piles of ignorance and false notions and it is ongoing and surreptitious. The child in the bedroom down the hall in most homes now tends toward Communism and it has been so disguised and misidentified officially that the words and the ideology are never whispered. The young dumb kids have been led to believe, through propaganda, that the principles of Communism are noble and not in contravention with our Constitution. It is so pervasive that our government can pass out debit cards and pay for displaced people to live on cruise ships and in motels/ condos at the expense of other citizens without getting or even expecting criticism. Debit cards are now being distributed in San Diego. Hurricanes, fires, mud slides, tornadoes, snow storms, earthquakes are all excuses to buy political power using the hard earned money of working citizens by just "swiping" a card. |
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I'm a Duncan Hunter supporter. He would be the proverbial "whole loaf of bread." Check out his policies for yourself. http://www.GoHunter08.com
However - if we can't get the whole loaf of bread, let's get at least half a loaf.
We can stop this democrat foolishness.
Most of the rest of the GOP field is worthy of the President's office. A solid and interesting field.
GOP footsoldiers to the rescue!
The GOP has a actual race for a candidate - the 15% undecided voters will be drawn to that and listen to our positive ideas.
Our next GOP president will not allow stupid democrat tax hikes, spending hikes to stand.
We will pull together and win. We will restore enumerated powers, minimal government, individual responsibility, property rights.
Vote America First. |
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How deos that song go? If you take a walk I'll tax your feet,if you get to cold I'll tax the heat.Don't ask me what I want it for. My advice for those who die, declare the pennies on your eyes. Your working for no one but me. That Beatles song should be the theme song at the Democrat National Convention. My real advice to everybody is to call your congressmen or petition the congress to repeal amendment sixteen of The U.S. Constitution.
Thone, The U.S. Congress is the only branch of government that controls taxes or money. Presidents have very little power over taxes and how money is spent. He has advice and consent only. Don't blame Reagan, H.Bush, Clinton and W. Bush for congressional failer. You know what is really funny, your taxes go to the federal reserve, which is not part of the Federal Governmernt. All money collected from your paycheck or income including social security goes to the federal reserve. The federal reserve is a private bank. |
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How can these morons (the libs) be aiming to make the same disastrous mistake all over again? High, steeply progressive tax rates crush the economy, raising the cost of existing government giveaway programs. The European Socialist countries have 10-15% unemployment rates and zero growth. There is no example, either now or any time in history, where the policies advocated by the Dems today have not added up to economic disaster. The people who will be most affected will be the Boomer/Yuppies, smugly secure, clutching their fat 401k statements and looking at the plump, well-funded pension plans that they are a part of. That wealth and the equity in your house (already under attack by soaring property tax rates) are the most obvious targets for a greedy, desperate welfare state trying to staunch a Niagara of red ink and seeking ever more harsh means of wealth redistribution. But the same dolts that complain about their rising property taxes and declining schools will happily march to the polls and vote for the party that promises free goodies at the expense of someone else will be standing in the soup line wondering what went wrong. |
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All true, but what they really don't want is for Mike Huckabee to win the Republican nomination. Because then they won't have a chance regardless of whether Clinton or somebody else winds up winning on the Democrat side. Huckabee is the candidate for the American People - he endorses us - the ordinary, hard-working folks who make this country so great. A vote for Huckabee is a vote against the ever increasing growth of Gov't and against the slow road to socialist tyranny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhAO8-vRjHA
http://www.mikehuckabee.com/index.cfm?FuseAction=Blogs.Home
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We should cut back on our war spending and bring our troops home from the "Iraq Occupation." I think we'd find more money then, don't you? Do any of you enjoy being indebted to China, a country with an abhorrent human rights record? They're the ones buying the bulk of our U.S. bonds to fund our little war in the Middle East. What happens when they decide we owe them? I hope you're all proud of yourselves for indebting us to a Communist nation that has become, on the whole, more of an authoritarian regime, and for killing off thousands of American soldiers. As a taxpayer, I think raising taxes is a great idea to pay for services and goods this country needs (education, fixing roads and bridges (forgotten the Minnesota bridge collapse already, have we?), etc.). And if making the rich pay more of their fair share is included in the plans, that sounds good to me. |
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None of the things you mentioned that the country "needs" is authorized for expenditure under the Constitution.
Also, the rich pay more than their fair share of taxes. In fact, the rich pay almost all of the taxes. At the same time, they provide jobs and income for those who are willing to work
The "Progressive" erroneous notion of taxing the rich ever more merely punishes the productive and rewards the leeching losers. Not only are income taxes stolen money from slavery, but it's grossly inefficiently applied stolen money from slavery.
Ever read "Atlas Shrugged"? Think it's not happening here? Politicians find it all to easy to buy votes from people like you. |
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In an argument, I told this guy that the top 1 percent pay over a third of all taxes - and he in words called that garbage and made a bet with me. So I hit google and found a nice summary on http://www.irs.gov and show him (as non partisan as info gets.) Though proven wrong, he didn't back down an inch. And eventually he says: "You may win on facts - but I win the argument." That reply is more the rule than the exception these days.
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